In the end, all looked a bit worn out. A day full of lengthy discussions and debates was behind the 250 fans and fan representatives from 49 clubs. But the discussion and vote at the exact wording of the final declaration of each set had lasted more than two hours. But it was worth it: The two-page, hard-won document is at least a tangible result of the fan summit on violence in Berlin. Concrete decisions or actions were not taken, however. But that was not the purpose of the event – so far it is not a long time. Rather, it was about the muddled fronts between league managers and fans something to soften and another to get into substantive conversation. It was about "verbal disarmament" as designated managing director of the German Football League (DFL) Andreas Rettig formulated. Spontaneously, he had asked the organizers to participate. An important sign. Because a central point of the Congress was the DFL-concept paper on "Safe stadium experience," the first draft of several clubs had refused. The 32-page position paper was developed after the security summit in July and the interior ministers of DFL and DFB and includes among other things a list of penalties for violent fans. Criticism of the security paper DFLPolitik and police had, however – allegedly because they were not invited – not seek to participate in the Congress. Much to the dismay of those present. "DFB and DFL representatives have shown that one needed no invitation. All could have come, "said Christian work, spokesman for the host first FC Union Berlin. Behind closed doors, one participant commented: "The government representatives have to understand finally that capacity for dialogue is not to look for whenever a microphone if you want to once again proclaim a hard-line demand. "The dialogue in turn, kept the fans firmly in the document, as well as their determination to participate in a democratic way of decision-making processes of the DFL. They also demand the policy of the paper, "not to use the football to distract attention from political failures in other areas." On the subject of football "to make an example of the clubs abzuverlangen the solutions most complicated social problems" was "unfair to the highest degree, and as short-sighted," it said. Also the discussions in Berlin made clear again: The fans feel ignored and excluded – and see themselves also faced with threats such as the abolition of the standing room. On this basis, the DFL-security paper have their opinion no chance of success. Originally, the league was on 12 December vote on their concept. Even before the summit fans and clubs had made it clear that this event was not observed in their view. Enough they were involved, too little voice would be granted them. Rettig: "" transportation of the error message "This paper should be gekloppt in the bin. There shall be no vote, as this concept has no acceptance. One should start from scratch, "said Sven Brux, safety officer of FC St. Pauli. In his view, the violence has increased in the stadiums not in principle: "If there was so much violence, as claimed, then we could have the biggest crowds in Europe, the rise also still employed? If the stadiums uncertain, people would stay away. "This opinion is shared by many fans: More than 20 000 supporters of different clubs have been included in a list, the more recently from the Dortmund fan initiative was "I Feel safe" on the Internet. With the action they want to make it clear that they are not afraid to go to the stadium and the violence debate is covered in her eyes. Nevertheless, the issue of violence in light of recent incidents at the Ruhr derby between Schalke and Dortmund and the images of rioting Cup match Dynamo Dresden in Hanover not be completely hidden. Fanforscher Jonas Gabler believes whoever seeking violence in football, they'll find there also – or can provoke: "In my view it would be desirable if it would finally come to a proper debate about violence in society and in football," he told SPIEGEL ONLINE. Although that night everyone was trying to open dialogue, it was again apparent that between league and fans are significant communication problems – DFL-man Rettig called it a mutual "perception error" or "Error in transporting the message." Gabler said, "It is clearer than ever that there is a huge need for discussion. Unclear, however, who is at the end about the actual procedure on safety in football has the power of decision. "Probably the most important finding was that the Summit: Everyone wants to talk, but no one knows who.
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